tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6784891745623390957.post5393219996152849874..comments2024-03-22T23:27:47.349+00:00Comments on EAGLETON NOTES: Fire SafetyGraham Edwardshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11196744947133121475noreply@blogger.comBlogger27125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6784891745623390957.post-30554683886015896972017-06-19T20:49:27.013+01:002017-06-19T20:49:27.013+01:00Amy an update. Apparently you were correct in that...Amy an update. Apparently you were correct in that that cladding seems to have been banned in other countries but not in the UK.Graham Edwardshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11196744947133121475noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6784891745623390957.post-61138205378924963292017-06-19T15:33:53.974+01:002017-06-19T15:33:53.974+01:00Meike new buildings have to have them here and the...Meike new buildings have to have them here and they have to be wired in. One problem of the old ones is that people often fail to put new batteries in. I check mine regularly.Graham Edwardshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11196744947133121475noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6784891745623390957.post-71862670106697704122017-06-19T15:32:31.804+01:002017-06-19T15:32:31.804+01:00Amy I've not seen anything so far to suggest t...Amy I've not seen anything so far to suggest that the cladding material was banned. It allegedly met the building standards. I'm sure that the police and fire and other investigations will determine whether it did. If it did then the implications for the hundreds, if not thousands, of similarly clad blocks will be incredible. I think the law require alarms in multi-storey and public buildings here to and new-builds have to have them wired in. There is to be a full public inquiry too.Graham Edwardshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11196744947133121475noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6784891745623390957.post-63797408472524306232017-06-19T15:22:05.935+01:002017-06-19T15:22:05.935+01:00YP, he and his wife both thought the other had bro...YP, he and his wife both thought the other had brought the front door key - neither had. I was the only one mad enough to walk along the stone window ledge above the gap below for the cellar windows. Graham Edwardshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11196744947133121475noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6784891745623390957.post-47457563598151275562017-06-19T14:08:57.901+01:002017-06-19T14:08:57.901+01:00What were you planning to steal? And what kind of ...What were you planning to steal? And what kind of way is that to treat a friend? Honestly - I am disappointed in you Graham. I thought you were scrupulously honest.Yorkshire Puddinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06019673884543913089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6784891745623390957.post-29835834359504176812017-06-19T13:26:21.285+01:002017-06-19T13:26:21.285+01:00For a couple of years now, having fire/smoke detec...For a couple of years now, having fire/smoke detectors fitted in all living/sleeping rooms of every house and flat has been mandatory in Germany. Everyone moaned and complained when the new law came through, and suspected that it simply was there to create extra business for the fitters of such devices. However now everyone has gotten used to them, and I don't know how effective they have already proved to be in terms of reducing the number of people injured or dead through house fires.Librarianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05704656564078750607noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6784891745623390957.post-26482380332729476282017-06-19T09:33:53.662+01:002017-06-19T09:33:53.662+01:00yes we heard about the news story here in NZ too, ...yes we heard about the news story here in NZ too, seems horrific that banned cladding material was used in and on the building, I hope an enquiry into what happened happens. Here in NZ it's against the law not to have smoke alarms in every house.Amyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17076349937962262361noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6784891745623390957.post-64254111903261056392017-06-18T21:42:24.026+01:002017-06-18T21:42:24.026+01:00In reality YP I don't think it's as simple...In reality YP I don't think it's as simple as that. Personally I think it's an unnecessary restriction for most modern windows. However I did break into a friend's ground floor flat through the sash window (with a credit card) in front of a bus queue in Dundee many decades ago. No one batted and eyelid. A lock would have been a good idea there.Graham Edwardshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11196744947133121475noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6784891745623390957.post-32643065595793964152017-06-18T21:38:40.778+01:002017-06-18T21:38:40.778+01:00Cro I suppose that good alarms and extinguishers i...Cro I suppose that good alarms and extinguishers is the best one could do apart from think about what you would do in case of fire. I have a friend who always locks the front door and takes the key out (not unusual) but then often puts it with the car keys which might be anywhere in the house. I now have my own key and I make sure I know where it is when I go to bed. Paranoid? Moi? Graham Edwardshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11196744947133121475noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6784891745623390957.post-41340542646552269772017-06-18T21:34:07.360+01:002017-06-18T21:34:07.360+01:00Kay you are absolutely correct. Fire I have seen f...Kay you are absolutely correct. Fire I have seen fire rip through buildings at a scary pace but the Grenfell fire eclipsed anything I think even all the firefighters had experienced.Graham Edwardshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11196744947133121475noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6784891745623390957.post-27275744396597659892017-06-18T21:31:18.569+01:002017-06-18T21:31:18.569+01:00Lee I cannot remember feeling so emotionally affec...Lee I cannot remember feeling so emotionally affected watching those people trapped knowing they were going to die. It's not something anyone who saw it is likely to forget. And yet such things happen every day when the bombs rain down on residential areas in, for example, Syria. There is no one to looka after them. But that's a long way from home (ours).Graham Edwardshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11196744947133121475noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6784891745623390957.post-565307947978877692017-06-18T21:28:17.199+01:002017-06-18T21:28:17.199+01:00I think, Lynda, that a bush fire would be my worst...I think, Lynda, that a bush fire would be my worst nightmare (in that I've never been in a multi-storey dwelling since my teens). We did have our escape routes planned in the event of a fire starting near the house in NZ because there was a lot of dry brush in the summer and we had a large stand of eucalyptus.Graham Edwardshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11196744947133121475noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6784891745623390957.post-89036242011725945562017-06-18T21:23:52.493+01:002017-06-18T21:23:52.493+01:00You're correct, of course, Red and it's al...You're correct, of course, Red and it's all too apparent when there is afire especially in places where houses are often made of wood and where loss of life can be all too easy. Graham Edwardshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11196744947133121475noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6784891745623390957.post-65780754673503758002017-06-18T21:22:17.812+01:002017-06-18T21:22:17.812+01:00It is indeed Adrian. We had our own mini dry clean...It is indeed Adrian. We had our own mini dry cleaning plant in Dad's shed.Graham Edwardshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11196744947133121475noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6784891745623390957.post-35795490353231661612017-06-18T20:49:44.832+01:002017-06-18T20:49:44.832+01:00The window lock business seems to simply be a loop...The window lock business seems to simply be a loophole that allows insurance companies to dodge their responsibilities.Yorkshire Puddinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06019673884543913089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6784891745623390957.post-11263136172882948282017-06-18T07:16:26.921+01:002017-06-18T07:16:26.921+01:00Carbon Tet is a great degreaser and an excellent f...Carbon Tet is a great degreaser and an excellent fire putter outer. Quite nice to sniff as well. It saves paying tax on alcohol.ADRIANhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07113961163396562781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6784891745623390957.post-19517133614658443742017-06-18T04:43:31.005+01:002017-06-18T04:43:31.005+01:00Hardly anything else has been on my mind since the...Hardly anything else has been on my mind since the disaster. It still seems like some terrible nightmare from which I'll hopefully awake.<br /><br />Our house is a death-trap if it came to fire. Downstairs fine, but upstairs has only tiny windows.<br /><br /> Cro Magnonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06840670227576695352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6784891745623390957.post-90867718010777044412017-06-18T02:06:05.853+01:002017-06-18T02:06:05.853+01:00Most people do not understand how quickly fire can...Most people do not understand how quickly fire can spread. One of the main things that is stressed in fire safety is GET OUT. (In fact, they tell us "Get out, Stay Out, Don't Go Back In".)<br />The victims in the Greenfell Tower did not have that option. That was so terrible to see, that they were trapped, unable to leave. Terrible tragedy, so sad to see the families speaking on TV of the loss of their loved ones. Just heartbreaking.Kay G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/07228498846814735537noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6784891745623390957.post-39523145011462342017-06-18T02:05:48.650+01:002017-06-18T02:05:48.650+01:00One can't begin to imagine correctly how those...One can't begin to imagine correctly how those poor people felt, trapped in that building with the fire raging uncontrollably around them. How terrifying....<br /><br />It's very distressing thinking about it....seeing the images on the news and in the papers. So very, very sad.Leehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15835982875620956300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6784891745623390957.post-33517121682040277922017-06-18T02:02:09.708+01:002017-06-18T02:02:09.708+01:00I watched with horror and much sadness the intensi...I watched with horror and much sadness the intensity of the Grenfell Tower. I cannot begin to imagine the grief that so many are feeling at this moment.<br /><br />Bushfires and fast moving grassfires are a bigger concern than structural fires here in rural Australia. Having lived through a bushfire as a teenager it will forever haunt me.CountryMumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14761724941259576940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6784891745623390957.post-46362496619857652672017-06-18T01:46:00.847+01:002017-06-18T01:46:00.847+01:00Many of us are not prepared for a residential fire...Many of us are not prepared for a residential fire. There are safety procedures but we don't employ all of them.Redhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17996243850279671523noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6784891745623390957.post-43600121702342536102017-06-17T21:22:39.545+01:002017-06-17T21:22:39.545+01:00It's so good to have you back Adrian. I rememb...It's so good to have you back Adrian. I remember that my Dad years ago before anyone knew the dangers had a CTC fire extinguisher. It was great for getting oil off clothes. However they were banned when it was discovered that if you inhaled the fumes when you had consumed alcohol the result was worse than the inhaling smoke.Graham Edwardshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11196744947133121475noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6784891745623390957.post-49212554608021327002017-06-17T21:18:09.056+01:002017-06-17T21:18:09.056+01:00Yes Frances it will. I do know someone in a three ...Yes Frances it will. I do know someone in a three storey house who has rope fire ladders in a snazzy chest in front of the window anchored so that they can climb down it. Mind you they are not in their eighties yet.Graham Edwardshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11196744947133121475noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6784891745623390957.post-7851553541507568302017-06-17T21:15:37.302+01:002017-06-17T21:15:37.302+01:00Maywyn you are absolutely right but I think 99% of...Maywyn you are absolutely right but I think 99% of the population work on the basis that theses things only happen to other people.Graham Edwardshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11196744947133121475noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6784891745623390957.post-35981803581244791322017-06-17T19:14:37.761+01:002017-06-17T19:14:37.761+01:00It is indeed a tragedy but a quick way to go. One ...It is indeed a tragedy but a quick way to go. One lung full of smoke and that's your lot.<br />I too have a couple of extinguishers one foam and one an old halon one. I know the latter can't be recharged as halon is a greenhouse gas. Daft buggers so is a plastics fire.<br />Thirty years ago I built a thousand square foot workshop. It was for racing cars and bikes. I had to jump through hoops to get it all spot on for the local mafiosa..... sorry planners. Building, drainage, fire folk. They were never away. I wanted a mezzanine floor for storage but that had to have a fire escape.<br />I can understand how contractors get fed up. They will work all hours but local authorities work nine till five with flexi-time. Trying to get hold of the one you want is a full time job.<br />Too much emoting over this and other modern day horrors. I can't stand emoting. The enquiry will make recommendations in the meantime it may be prudent to evacuate any similarly clad buildings. ADRIANhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07113961163396562781noreply@blogger.com